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		<title>By: Justin Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.frosted.ca/2009/03/26/canon-5d-mark-ii-premier-pro-cs4-1080p-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great!  I'm glad to bear that it helped out.  I've had great results using the photo-jpeg codec as a working file for use in after effects and premiere..  Use 90% or above on the compression settings for the full res renders, from my research this is very comparable (but much more manageable) than an uncompressed or "animation" codec based workflow.  

Thanks for checking out the blog,
Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great!  I&#8217;m glad to bear that it helped out.  I&#8217;ve had great results using the photo-jpeg codec as a working file for use in after effects and premiere..  Use 90% or above on the compression settings for the full res renders, from my research this is very comparable (but much more manageable) than an uncompressed or &#8220;animation&#8221; codec based workflow.  </p>
<p>Thanks for checking out the blog,<br />
Justin</p>
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		<title>By: sempriny</title>
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		<dc:creator>sempriny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahha! I just realized that if you make the codec bit rate higer then the metallic look of the footage goes...wohoo!

S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahha! I just realized that if you make the codec bit rate higer then the metallic look of the footage goes&#8230;wohoo!</p>
<p>S</p>
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		<title>By: sempriny</title>
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		<dc:creator>sempriny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello

 I used you workflow to edit and it worked a treat, so huge thanks! However I now am struggling to export the footage. Now I don't really understand what all of these settings mean (pixel aspect ration, anamophic...) but the footage all looks great when rendered out at low res. Now, I need to export it as uncompressed so I can bring it into Adobe After Effects to add some titles etc. the problem is that I can't get the uncompressed export to work, it seems to make the footage almost metallic looking. I've tried messing around with many options but I just can't find the best solution. The only really way I can export it and it looks ok is by using the h.624 format but this makes my cross dissolves look really pixilated. So, any ideas for ways to make this work?

Ta 

S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello</p>
<p> I used you workflow to edit and it worked a treat, so huge thanks! However I now am struggling to export the footage. Now I don&#8217;t really understand what all of these settings mean (pixel aspect ration, anamophic&#8230;) but the footage all looks great when rendered out at low res. Now, I need to export it as uncompressed so I can bring it into Adobe After Effects to add some titles etc. the problem is that I can&#8217;t get the uncompressed export to work, it seems to make the footage almost metallic looking. I&#8217;ve tried messing around with many options but I just can&#8217;t find the best solution. The only really way I can export it and it looks ok is by using the h.624 format but this makes my cross dissolves look really pixilated. So, any ideas for ways to make this work?</p>
<p>Ta </p>
<p>S</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.frosted.ca/2009/03/26/canon-5d-mark-ii-premier-pro-cs4-1080p-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there, 
Thanks for the comment... I have had a couple people ask me for a video tutorial for this.. Hopefully I will be able to get around to it in the next couple weeks... My 5D2 is broken and sent back to Canon so I have some time to work on this stuff[:

Cheers,
J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,<br />
Thanks for the comment&#8230; I have had a couple people ask me for a video tutorial for this.. Hopefully I will be able to get around to it in the next couple weeks&#8230; My 5D2 is broken and sent back to Canon so I have some time to work on this stuff[:</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
J</p>
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		<title>By: mrmilli</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrmilli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, could you please make a video tutorial showing your work flow, I think it would be greatly appreciated by many viewer. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, could you please make a video tutorial showing your work flow, I think it would be greatly appreciated by many viewer. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.frosted.ca/2009/03/26/canon-5d-mark-ii-premier-pro-cs4-1080p-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya, 

Yeah the AIC codec comes with Apple OS X I believe, if you are using PC I think there is a free codec here:
http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

Basically you want to use a codec [AIC or other,] with minimal compression and decompression, this will make it easier on your system to work in realtime.  Also be sure that the bitrate drops as well.. the raw files are somewhere around 40Mbps so bring these proxies down to something like 5Mbps.

Remember that you need to keep the same extension in order to replace all the proxies with the originals, so use a .mov wrapper with whatever codec you choose for your working files... This all sounds tedious but once you are able to work in real-time it's all worth it.

Hope that helps,

Cheers, 
Frost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya, </p>
<p>Yeah the AIC codec comes with Apple OS X I believe, if you are using PC I think there is a free codec here:<br />
<a href="http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/lags.leetcode.net');" rel="nofollow">http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html</a></p>
<p>Basically you want to use a codec [AIC or other,] with minimal compression and decompression, this will make it easier on your system to work in realtime.  Also be sure that the bitrate drops as well.. the raw files are somewhere around 40Mbps so bring these proxies down to something like 5Mbps.</p>
<p>Remember that you need to keep the same extension in order to replace all the proxies with the originals, so use a .mov wrapper with whatever codec you choose for your working files&#8230; This all sounds tedious but once you are able to work in real-time it&#8217;s all worth it.</p>
<p>Hope that helps,</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Frost</p>
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		<title>By: kx0101</title>
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		<dc:creator>kx0101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im with okeefe1979 I wonder if you need to have final cut to have the Apple intermediate Codec that would beat all the purpose of having premiere. Just curious because that's the only missing link i have in order to edit using your work flow. Any free codecs that function like the AIC

ThNKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im with okeefe1979 I wonder if you need to have final cut to have the Apple intermediate Codec that would beat all the purpose of having premiere. Just curious because that&#8217;s the only missing link i have in order to edit using your work flow. Any free codecs that function like the AIC</p>
<p>ThNKS</p>
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		<title>By: okeefe1979</title>
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		<dc:creator>okeefe1979</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I'm trying to do the batch export but I can't find Apple Intermediate Codec. I have Apple Video in the Movie Exporter window. Is that it? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I&#8217;m trying to do the batch export but I can&#8217;t find Apple Intermediate Codec. I have Apple Video in the Movie Exporter window. Is that it? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.frosted.ca/2009/03/26/canon-5d-mark-ii-premier-pro-cs4-1080p-workflow/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok here is the deal in short.

proxies are required for smooth editing.. from my experience there is NO HOPE of RENDERLESS editing the raw .h264 files from the 5d mk2 in premiere pro cs4 especially once effects and transitions are added.  This is critical for me as I lose all creativity when waiting for renders and spinning balls of death...

transcode all raw files with &lt;a href="http://www.squared5.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;mpeg streamclip &lt;/a&gt; to apple intermediate codec [or .h264 if you really have to..] @ [640 x 360 pix]

save these in a new folder alongside your raw files, call it "proxies".

open mpeg streamclip
press command + b for BATCH
dump all your raw files in the batch
export to quicktime

mpeg streamclip transcode settings:
no interlaced scaling [this is awesome progressive footage..]
30 fps
5Mbps
square pixels
50 % quality
RUN THE BATCH AND WAKE UP IN THE MORNING... 

open ppro cs4
new project:
square pixels
30fps
1920 x 1080
progressive

[save that as a preset]

after importing all the raw footage to the project panel, select all raw clips right click &gt; make offline
with all clips selected, replace them with the 640 x 360 proxies right click &gt; link media

NOTE: the file names need to be exact filename matches to the raw files, this will allow premiere to replace all the clips when you just select one.

ANOTHER NOTE: the 640 x 360 proxies will not fill the 1080 work area until you right click on them in the timeline and select "scale to frame size".

HAPPY EDITING.. Premiere will now be able to work on this low-res footage much quicker.  Welcome back to real time editing.. FINALLY 

Once the cuts are complete, then repeat the process and replace the proxies with the raw files.  Render them out at nothing more than 25Mbps [my advice for smooth playback... unless you have top end machines along the life of the file] 

&lt;a href="http://www.vimeo.com/2641870" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is the post with all the details, my workflow is more or less the same as that one.  I did try to make the proxies SD and it still choked my macbook pro 2.0 GHZ, I would recommend going straight for the 640 x 360 resolution and a bit rate of 5Mbps or maybe even lower.  The key is to be able to have it play smooth not only for straight cuts, but also renderless dissolves and color corrections.

Peace,
Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok here is the deal in short.</p>
<p>proxies are required for smooth editing.. from my experience there is NO HOPE of RENDERLESS editing the raw .h264 files from the 5d mk2 in premiere pro cs4 especially once effects and transitions are added.  This is critical for me as I lose all creativity when waiting for renders and spinning balls of death&#8230;</p>
<p>transcode all raw files with <a href="http://www.squared5.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.squared5.com');" rel="nofollow">mpeg streamclip </a> to apple intermediate codec [or .h264 if you really have to..] @ [640 x 360 pix]</p>
<p>save these in a new folder alongside your raw files, call it &#8220;proxies&#8221;.</p>
<p>open mpeg streamclip<br />
press command + b for BATCH<br />
dump all your raw files in the batch<br />
export to quicktime</p>
<p>mpeg streamclip transcode settings:<br />
no interlaced scaling [this is awesome progressive footage..]<br />
30 fps<br />
5Mbps<br />
square pixels<br />
50 % quality<br />
RUN THE BATCH AND WAKE UP IN THE MORNING&#8230; </p>
<p>open ppro cs4<br />
new project:<br />
square pixels<br />
30fps<br />
1920 x 1080<br />
progressive</p>
<p>[save that as a preset]</p>
<p>after importing all the raw footage to the project panel, select all raw clips right click &gt; make offline<br />
with all clips selected, replace them with the 640 x 360 proxies right click &gt; link media</p>
<p>NOTE: the file names need to be exact filename matches to the raw files, this will allow premiere to replace all the clips when you just select one.</p>
<p>ANOTHER NOTE: the 640 x 360 proxies will not fill the 1080 work area until you right click on them in the timeline and select &#8220;scale to frame size&#8221;.</p>
<p>HAPPY EDITING.. Premiere will now be able to work on this low-res footage much quicker.  Welcome back to real time editing.. FINALLY </p>
<p>Once the cuts are complete, then repeat the process and replace the proxies with the raw files.  Render them out at nothing more than 25Mbps [my advice for smooth playback... unless you have top end machines along the life of the file] </p>
<p><a href="http://www.vimeo.com/2641870" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.vimeo.com');" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is the post with all the details, my workflow is more or less the same as that one.  I did try to make the proxies SD and it still choked my macbook pro 2.0 GHZ, I would recommend going straight for the 640 x 360 resolution and a bit rate of 5Mbps or maybe even lower.  The key is to be able to have it play smooth not only for straight cuts, but also renderless dissolves and color corrections.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Justin</p>
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		<title>By: visualstoryteller</title>
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		<dc:creator>visualstoryteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi there, did you ever get the updates to your work flow up?  I'd appreciate any info you have on it.. thanks -andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there, did you ever get the updates to your work flow up?  I&#8217;d appreciate any info you have on it.. thanks -andy</p>
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